Overstock Files Lawsuit to Fight New York Tax Law
BIG Breaking News! While I gave Overstock a seriously hard time over dropping their New York affiliates - now I need to give them a HUGE thank you on behalf of the affiliate marketing industry for their latest move!
We really needed another major retailer to challenge this law as Amazon did and now we have it! Overstock just announced yesterday, they filed their own suit.
“The complaint filed in the New York Supreme Court calls upon the court to issue an injunction and to declare the law unconstitutional.”
Can’t believe I broke this story and no one in the industry has blogged it yet. Then again, I’m overly obsessed and constantly scouring the net for news on this issue. I think this could help us even more than the Amazon suit, for a variety of reasons. Hopefully I can help spread the word to let people know. I’ll get a twit and an email out to key people in the industry who I’m working with on this issue.
We are coordinating a New York Tax panel discussion for next week’s Affiliate Marketing Insider Radio show. Maybe I can get Overstock legal to be on the show and comment on their stance with affiliates and this suit.
Overstock.com Challenges Constitutionality of New York’s Internet Tax Law
SALT LAKE CITY, May 30 Press Release — Overstock.com, Inc. (Nasdaq: OSTK) announced today that it has filed a lawsuit challenging New York’s new tax law that requires internet retailers to collect and pay to the New York state tax on their New York sales despite the fact that the retailer has no physical presence or nexus in New York.
The controversial new law attempts to redefine the relationship that internet retailers have with their New York-based advertising affiliates by requiring that when those affiliates solicit customers, the internet retailers collect and pay sales and use tax from all their New York customers.
Overstock.com, which is based only in Utah, has no operations in New York, and sells exclusively through the internet, views the new law as unconstitutional under both New York and federal constitutional provisions, including due process clauses under both constitutions and the commerce clause of the U.S. Constitution as well. The complaint filed in the New York Supreme Court calls upon the court to issue an injunction and to declare the law unconstitutional. It names as defendants in the suit the New York State Department of Taxation and Finance, and Tax Commissioner Robert L Menga and Governor Paterson in their official capacities as state officers.
On May 15, 2008, Overstock.com announced it had notified more than 3,400 New York-based affiliate advertisers that as of June 1, 2008 they could no longer provide advertising for Overstock.com owing to the application of this law. If it had not taken the action, on June 1, the controversial new law would have required the company to collect an up to 8.75% sales tax on all its sales to New York customers. If the company’s legal challenge succeeds, the company anticipates it will return to state’s internet advertising affiliates.
“We love New York,” said Patrick Byrne, Overstock.com chairman and chief executive officer. “But, we had to choose our New York customers over the New York tax collector armed with an unconstitutional statute.”
“I am confident of our position in the suit,” said Mark Griffin, Overstock.com general counsel. “The applicable United States Supreme Court cases on the question of whether the state can collect taxes under these circumstances make it clear that New York cannot constitutionally require Overstock.com to collect these taxes.”
The company is the second large internet retailer to challenge the law. Amazon.com filed suit previously, alleging similar claims.
UPDATE SUNDAY 6/1 Other coverage about the Overstock suit:
Overstock Sues New York Over Affiliate Tax Affiliate Tip
Overstock sues New York over Net sales tax law CNET
Overstock.com sues New York over Internet tax law Reuters





#1 Debbie wrote on Saturday, May 31st, 2008:
Hi Linda,
Thanks so much for staying on top of this issue and keeping us all informed. I was directly affected by this yesterday, as one of my affiliate sites terminated all New York affiliate marketers.
Ken Evoy, CEO of Site Build It, is interested in this as well and is posting in his forums about it, in a thread that I started yesterday. Many of us are wondering if there is some grass roots movement afoot somewhere that we can join, something that we can make viral to really put some uncomfortable pressure on the New York politicians to make them re-think this terrible idea. If there isn’t anything yet, there needs to be. How can we start this up? Any ideas from anyone?
Will be following this very closely and joining whatever “movement” I can find.
Thanks.
Debbie
#2 Heather Paulson wrote on Saturday, May 31st, 2008:
Amazing news - great read as usual Linda! Thanks for keeping the community up to date!
Cheers,
Heather Paulson
#3 Linda Buquet wrote on Saturday, May 31st, 2008:
Hi Debbie, you are very welcome. I really feel like it’s my job to try to keep people informed and coordinate any efforts I can.
I tried to get into the SiteBuildit forum yesterday because I saw I was getting hits from there and assumed it was people talking about NY. But my Username/password would not work. Need to try again.
Anyway there are several movements but the efforts are very fragmented into different groups. A few of us are in direct talks with the NY government to get answers on so many of the contradictory points and gray areas. Cecily Lancit from Affiliopolis.com is heading up that effort and about 5 of us are involved. She’s had 2 conference calls with them. We’ve submitted a list of questions. They say it will take a month to answer them in will do it in the form of a public FAQ, but we are pushing to get our 3 main questions answered before our Thursday Radio show.
You can let Ken and everyone at SBI know we are planning a panel discussion with several key people for next week’s Affiliate Marketing Insider radio show at Webmaster radio. Airs Thursday 3 EST.
Last weeks show they had important info about an industry assoc that’s is in the process of being formed. Here’s the info and the show is up in the archives so anyone that missed it can listen. Affiliate Association Forming? Affiliate Insider Discussion
Ken may be interested in getting involved.
The assoc won’t happen fast enough to deal with the current NY sitn but could help with other states, if this spreads.
OTHER EFFORTS: I’ve heard that a group of NY affiliates is trying to schedule an affiliates only meeting. I’ve also heard that Affiliate Summit is trying to work in a session for discussion on the issue.
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#5 Linda Buquet wrote on Saturday, May 31st, 2008:
Ya Kevin, that’s exactly how I felt. It seems I’m checking the news every hour so don’t know how I missed it either.
The 1st time I saw the headline today, I almost didn’t read it, assuming it was just another old regurgitated news about the original Overstock issues. So it’s possible I missed it yesterday for that reason too.
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#7 Connie wrote on Saturday, May 31st, 2008:
Hello Linda
I am just beginning on the path that I hope will lead to internet income through affiliates. My web host is SBI and yes, the forum is heating up over the New York State law.
I will join Debbie in thanking you for bringing this to light and taking a roll in trying to prevent it. I plan to contact the prominent New York senator as was suggested on our forum. I will follow the lead of other suggestions as well.
Thank you for you help
Connie
#8 Linda Buquet wrote on Saturday, May 31st, 2008:
Hi Connie, you are very welcome.
Thanks so much for commenting and caring about the issue.
#9 peter bordes wrote on Saturday, May 31st, 2008:
Linda… WONDERFUL NEWS! Thank you for staying on top of this. This is a bigger issue than most people in the industry realize and i love the article that Heather posted form Forbes about ” The New York State Amazon Tax is Unconstitutional”
http://www.forbes.com/opinions/2008/05/13/amazonlaw-states-rights-oped-cx_scjw_0514amazonlaw.html
A must read ( like your blog ) for everyone in the industry.
This is a big turn with Overstock turning around after taking a different stance. This law is ridiculous and has absolutely no thought in it or understanding of the interactive market and how the world is becoming border (less) when it come to media and ecommerce.
http://www.relevantlyspeaking.com/2008/05/23/affiliate-marketing-community-tax-issue-update/ is the post we did about this.
We are heading into our second conversation with the IAB and will be making further posts. We need more pro activity thru new posts or comments in the posts and forums about the issue. We have been posting every article into Facebook, StumbleUpon and Digg. We encourage everyone to do the same and also set up Google ALERTS so when you see any content you can leverage the social media by posting, digging, Twittering, commenting.
The beginning ground swell has already turned Overstock and others. Think about how powerful the communities voice would be if we 10x it!
We dont have time to create an association (but should in the long run) but we do have time to create a very large SHOUT OUT!
#10 Linda Buquet wrote on Saturday, May 31st, 2008:
Thanks Peter for your pro-active work with the IAB and your social networking to help spread the word.
The assoc won’t even be formed til the end of the year and that’s with luck, so it’s def not geared to react to NY. However it could help us with other industry issues down the road, including other states that may follow NY’s lead in the future.
#11 peter bordes wrote on Saturday, May 31st, 2008:
Linda,
we are ALL IN for the association and will contribute in what every is needed. Its about time this enormous LEGITIMATE segment of the interactive marketing industry gets together and gets its act together. Creates credibility, policies, guidelines, education and polices the affiliate marketing industry.
I am still hoping to get the IAB further involved in performance marketing. not just LeadGen. one of the main reasons they have not been active is the reputation issue from the earlier days of affiliate marketing (not that there still aren’t issues) this is a good time to get everyone together. Collaborating and finding a focused united voice.
This is the main reason why we moved Advaliant to being the performance marketing division of MediaTrust and decided to create the MediaTrust brand. There are to many issues in the market regarding trust, integrity and more. Lets get this giant bay cleaned up and acting like the adult that it is ready to be. Globally!
#12 Linda Buquet wrote on Saturday, May 31st, 2008:
Hear, Hear Peter! Could not agree with you more on all points!
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#14 Mayank - Start Internet Business wrote on Saturday, May 31st, 2008:
This is a welcome step on Overstock’s part. New York legislators do not seem to realize what a labyrinth this could be with thousands of companies having affiliates all over the US and even in other countries.
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