Merchants - URGENT Re New York Affiliate Tax Law
This is extremely urgent information for all merchants - please spread the word! I just got off the Linkshare/DMA New York Tax conference call with DMA Tax Counsel George Isaacson. George stressed upfront that this was not strategy call – the primary purpose of the call was to analyze the law and more specifically the May 8 Technical Services Bulletin and to try to interpret the enforcement policy.
Tons of important information came up in this call and it will take me some time to complete this blog post. HOWEVER merchants only have 10 days to comply, June 1 is right around the corner, So 1st I’m going to cover essential information that merchants with affiliates in New York should consider implementing right away. Then I will add more info from the call to this post or do a part 2, so stay tuned for complete details later. Here’s the most important part, with more details and background info to follow.
MERCHANTS IF YOU HAVE NEW YORK AFFILIATES YOU SHOULD CONSIDER AMENDING YOUR TOS. HOWEVER there is no guarantee changing your TOS will protect you. The DMA call suggested it, but there are conflicting interpretations of the law, so it may not!
1st of all, merchants need to read the May 8 Technical Services Bulletin. The TSB is not the law only a attempt at clarification. In a nutshell (depending on interpretation - you need to read and have your attorney advise you!) it could be that merchants could REBUT the presumption of nexus IF New York affiliates only use links and USE NO OTHER MEANS OF SOLICITATION for the merchant.
Here is part of the wording from the doc - HOWEVER be sure to read the last blockquote on this page as it seems to contradict the following paragraph and says if links are pay for performance links, a seller may not rebut.
“A seller may rebut the presumption that it is soliciting sales in New York State through resident representatives. For purposes of administering the new presumption, the Tax Department will deem the presumption rebutted where the seller is able to establish that the only activity of its resident representatives in New York State on behalf of the seller is a link provided on the representatives’ Web sites to the seller’s Web site and none of the resident representatives engage in any solicitation activity in the state targeted at potential New York State customers on behalf of the seller.”
So if any of your NY affiliates go beyond web-based links (banners are never mentioned) and engage in any other form of solicitation defined in the document as “flyers, newsletters, telephone calls or e-mails or any other means of solicitation” to customers in the state of New York, then you can’t rebut the law and your company is considered to have nexus in NY and is liable for the tax. (SEE IMPORTANT CONTRADICTIONS IN UPDATE BELOW)
So the biggest concern merchants should have is emails, including email newsletters, since most affiliates don’t use flyers or telemarketing.
George recommended that merchants amend their TOS. I don’t have an exact quote from him and you need to check with your own attorney on specific wording. But in a nutshell what merchants need to cover in their TOS is something like this: Affiliates based in the state of New York can only use affiliate links provided by the merchant. No emails, no email newsletters to any New York residents. Also no flyers, brochures, printed newsletters, telephone calls or any other means of solicitation on behalf of the merchant are allowed BY NY affiliates - to NY consumers. Be as specific as you can. There are probably other promotion methods that should be spelled out too.
I personally would add some very strong wording about NY affiliates that don’t comply and are found to be using other methods of promotion in NY will be terminated, without payment immediately. I asked George the question: “if merchants add this to their TOS but some affiliates still send emails and NY audits and determines the merchant has nexus because a few affiliates are still emailing, would the merchant still be liable?” He felt that having a strong TOS and being able to prove the merchant is diligent about trying to enforce it, would go a long way. May be a good idea, that in addition to changing your TOS you send an email to affiliates about it and save for legal purposes. If you terminate some affiliates who don’t comply - be sure to save proof of that for legal purposes so you will have more legal grounds to defend yourself. NOTE: simply changing your TOS may not protect you, but it could possibly help defend your position if audited.
One of the big problems some merchants are facing right now is that they have not been able to get the info they need from networks to find out IF THEY ARE EVEN LIABLE for charging/reporting/paying the NY sales tax.
The magic number is $10,000 in sales made by NY affiliates TO NY CUSTOMERS over the past 4 quarters (see actual wording below.)
“cumulative gross receipts from sales by the seller to customers in New York State as a result of referrals to the seller by all of the seller’s resident representatives under the type of contract or agreement described above total more than $10,000 during the preceding four quarterly sales tax periods”
Merchants with affiliate programs on networks are not privy to affiliate addresses and have no way to run a report of sales based on affiliates in New York. The exception being Shareasale who jumped right on this and set up a report for merchants, Kudos again to Brian and team! The last I heard merchants on the major affiliate networks have been unable to get sales figures for NY-based affiliates.
The “to customers in New York State” is a new distinction from what we can tell. It’s good news in a way in that some merchants now won’t hit that threshold, but throws another big new wrinkle into the picture. The networks could possibly run a report for merchants based on total sales from NY affiliates. HOWEVER the networks don’t capture personal data on the customer, like where he lives. So there is no way for a network to tell a merchant how many sales from NY affiliates were to NY customers - NONE! So it’s impossible for any merchant working with a network to know if they meet that 10K criteria. as it’s currently written!
Even Brian’s report won’t work (I don’t think) because it’s pulling total sales volume, not sales volume only from NY consumers. I would think for a network to pull personally identifiable data, like a consumer’s address from a merchant’s cart, would violate a few privacy policies and make consumers pretty upset that their addresses were being passed to a 3rd party!
Maybe I’m wrong… maybe they could just pass the state parameter, HOWEVER considering the major networks have not been able to provide ANY reports to merchants yet and considering some backend changes in tracking and reporting between merchant and network would need to made and considering it can take the big networks MONTHS to implement changes sometimes… merchants need the info now in order to be in compliance or know if they are off the hook. I don’t see a way for them to get this data in the next week.
SO that makes this TOS issue even more important! Based on IF the DMA’s interpretation of the TSB is correct - that IF you can prove your affiliates do no other form of solicitation in the state of New York besides links - then you could possibly rebut regardless of your NY sales volume! (Check with your attny and see update in orange below from another attorney.)
Now what I’m not clear on is how you rebut and what proof you need to show prior to June 1 that you don’t feel you are not liable for the tax. Another concern I have is IF you change your TOS today and get affiliates in compliance before June 1, then are you safe because prior to your TOS change you were not in compliance. Could they still charge you for the back taxes???
There are still lots of unanswered questions. You still may want to consider changing your TOS right away and document all efforts to enforce it. You need to talk to your attorney about wording on your TOS. AND VERY IMPORTANTLY you need to find out what you need to do to register and/or rebut prior to the June 1 amnesty date. REMEMBER if they charge you for back taxes, that is tax you never collected from the consumer, so it comes right out of your pocket.
Many merchants are having a hard time getting answers about this from their attorneys who either don’t fully understand affiliate marketing or who don’t know enough about this NY law. I HAVE A CALL TODAY WITH THE BIGGEST, MOST WELL KNOWN INTERNET ATTORNEY. I will see if there is any way he can help us collectively, or if I can get any advice from him, or at the very least give you his contact info, if this is an issue he thinks he can help merchants with.
UPDATE 1:30 PM: INTERPRETATION OF THE TSB as it Relates to Affiliate Links: Just had a very long detailed conversation with John Dozier Esq., Managing Partner of Dozier Internet Law. John is one of the leading Internet attorneys out there, understands affiliate marketing and has handled numerous affiliate marketing related cases on a variety of issues. We went over the TSB in detail and the way he reads it, is not as clear cut as it was when we discussed it on the DMA call.
If you carefully and critically read every place in the TSB doc that mentions advertising or placing links, some of the information even sounds contradictory. In some places it sounds as if they are saying regular advertising links are not a problem, but affiliate links are because compensation is based on a pay per sale model. So many potentially problematic issues came up and everything is all based on interpretation because it’s not clearly written. This part of the TSB seems to say advertising links are OK but pay per sale affiliate links are NOT!
“In addition, an agreement to place an advertisement does not give rise to the presumption described above. For this purpose, placing an advertisement does NOT include the placement of a link on a Web site that, directly or indirectly, links to the Web site of a seller, where the consideration for placing the link on the Web site is based on the volume of completed sales generated by the link.”
The bottom line too is, this TSB document is not the law and is not binding. It’s only an attempt to clarify and explain the law and is subject to change.
SO ALL THAT SAID: If I were a merchant I would not try to figure it out, I would contact John at Dozier Internet Law right away, to get some help. I would maybe also go ahead and do the TOS changes to be on the safe side. BUT REALIZE that simply changing your TOS in and of itself will not protect you and may not be grounds to rebut. Based on the way NY interprets and enforces the law, just having pay per sale affiliate links even with no other solicitation still could constitute nexus.
Based on everything that happened on those 2 calls and the fact that there are a ton of other issues people haven’t even thought about yet… I’m going to say this is WAY more complicated than people realize and there are a bunch of loopholes and gotchas. I wish I had recorded and was able to share both calls with you, so you could hear 1st hand the viewpoints from 2 very knowledgeable lawyers.
I will continue to report on news as I find it, but for me to try and explain complicated phone calls with attorneys and translate interpretations of this law this when I’m not not a lawyer, is just really not a good idea. You just need to get a really good lawyer that understands affiliate marketing, Internet marketing and tax law!
Add questions or any new developments in the comments below.
Complete Coverage of the New York Affiliate Tax Issues Here
Lisa at Revenue posted her analysis: DMA Call to Interpret NY Affiliate Tax





#1 Heather Paulson wrote on Thursday, May 22nd, 2008:
Wow Linda Very valuable information thanks for your continued updating on this issue, I have posted a link to this article on my recent revenews post and will twitter this now..
Heather
#2 Linda Buquet wrote on Thursday, May 22nd, 2008:
Thanks so much Heather for helping to spread the word on this!
#3 Kevin wrote on Thursday, May 22nd, 2008:
Linda:
Having been on the call today as well, I have to mostly agree with your assertions above. At the same time, perhaps you can shed some light on the one thing that would possibly make me disagree with parts of it (hopefully this comes up with your attorney friend).
One is the governing principle mandating whether or not a merchant must register with the State as having to collect tax?
Are all merchants with NY affiliates bound to do so ahead of rebutting?
Is it just the ones who have more than the $10k in annual NY affiliate sales to NY residents?
Short of that, there’s no real harm in adjusting TOS to apply differently to New York affiliates, so long as it is stated in a way that is in concurrence with the law, and not broad, unnecessary restrictions.
#4 Carsten Cumbrowski wrote on Thursday, May 22nd, 2008:
“flyers, newsletters, telephone calls or e-mails or any other means of solicitation”
In other words “push marketing” Noe (=tax) , “pull marketing” Okay (=no tax), right?
“can only use affiliate links and banners provided by the merchant”
Well, you should, or commissions would not be tracked properly. I don’t think that this is a key criteria here. See my comment/question above.
A button/banner and/or affiliate link on a site won’t do any good. They are usually surrounded by something that has to do with what the merchant offers but is also of interest for the customer and the reason why he comes to the affiliate site (or clicks on a PPC ad of an affiliate).
flyers, newsletters, telephone calls and e-mails (emails that have the primary purpose of “selling” a product on behalf of the merchant) are all push marketing methods.
Search (Paid or Organic SEO) and Website Content are pull marketing. The customer is not solicited, but asks for it.
If they go further than that, then they expand the reach of their law to incorporate a lot more than just affiliate marketing. Coupons and Cash Back sites are border line cases, push and pull at the same time, but if you look at behavioral targeting in display advertising things get really blurry. That would be a good tactical move by NY affiliates to make themselves appear more like entities of traditional display advertising, even if that means to form another company, one that generates the content and acts as publisher and another who acts as Ad Server or Ad Network that provides the advertising and does the ad targeting and tracking.
If Advertisers add to the TOS the clause to make affiliates liable, affiliates who might be affected (who have email lists for example) should update their TOS as well and prohibit consumers from NY to register, sign-up for the newsletter or use the website. Warnings could be shown to users on a website based on IP addresses. That helps with proving to the merchant or the state of New York that you did everything you could to prevent to do business with people of the State New York.
Most affiliates should be able to survive the exclusion of New York residents from their sites, newsletters etc.
It would also trigger a backlash to the state of New York, because its people will probably not like if more and more online sites and businesses refuse to do business with them and state as the reason for the refusal that they don’t want to break any law that is limited to the state of New York only.
You might don’t have to ban New York state residents from your website, but you have to exclude them from any push marketing or something that could be considered push marketing (depending on the type and content of the email sent to a user, lines between push or not push can be very blurry)
Both mentioned tactics can be used together and work the issue from two sides at ones.
#5 Linda Buquet wrote on Thursday, May 22nd, 2008:
SHOOT KEVIN. Sorry, my email spam filter sent all the notifications of blog comments to my junk folder. Have been wanting to talk to you, since I read your blog and knew you were on the call.
Anyway, I’ve been editing and re-writing much of the original post based on info from the Internet attorney I talked to. He said there were different ways to interpret the info in the TBS and didn’t necessarily see in the same way the DMA attorney did. Could be even just links would count, even with no other form of solicitation.
SEE ORANGE UPDATE for info from my call with the attorney and his contact info for anyone that needs help.
RE your questions on mandates, registering, rebutting. Have not been able to get a good answer - but we have a Q& A Session set up with NY tax officials and all the Q & A will be published in a new FAQ. That’s one of the questions I want to submit.
Also Kevin I just edited, updated and added lots of info about the issue you raised re: “NY affiliate sales to NY residents?” That opens a whole new can of worms. That post has gotten so long it’s hard to point you to the right part to will just copy it here:
One of the big problems some merchants are facing right now is that they have not been able to get the info they need from networks to find out IF THEY ARE EVEN LIABLE for charging/reporting/paying the NY sales tax.
The magic number is $10,000 in sales made by NY affiliates TO NY CUSTOMERS over the past 4 quarters (see actual wording below.)
QUOTE: “cumulative gross receipts from sales by the seller to customers in New York State as a result of referrals to the seller by all of the seller’s resident representatives under the type of contract or agreement described above total more than $10,000 during the preceding four quarterly sales tax periods”
Merchants with affiliate programs on networks are not privy to affiliate addresses and have no way to run a report of sales based on affiliates in New York. The exception being Shareasale who jumped right on this and set up a report for merchants, Kudos again to Brian and team! The last I heard merchants on the major affiliate networks have been unable to get sales figures for NY-based affiliates.
The “to customers in New York State” is a new distinction from what we can tell. It’s good news in a way in that some merchants now won’t hit that threshold, but throws another big new wrinkle into the picture. The networks could possibly run a report for merchants based on total sales from NY affiliates. HOWEVER the networks don’t capture personal data on the customer, like where he lives. So there is no way for a network to tell a merchant how many sales from NY affiliates were to NY customers - NONE! So it’s impossible for any merchant working with a network to know if they meet that 10K criteria. as it’s currently written!
Even Brian’s report won’t work (I don’t think) because it’s pulling total sales volume, not sales volume only from NY consumers. I would think for a network to pull personally identifiable data, like a consumer’s address from a merchant’s cart, would violate a few privacy policies and make consumers pretty upset that their addresses were being passed to a 3rd party!
#6 Kevin wrote on Thursday, May 22nd, 2008:
Hmmm. I was banking on George’s interpretation, and even paraphrased it in an email to a merchant that just dumped me (more on that once I talk to them directly).
Thanks for reading the blog, Linda. This is an issue that impacts me very personally, so I’m trying to stay on top of it.
It’s affected me beyond affiliate marketing as we define it here too, as a distributorship deal I had in the works is now on hold as well.
Onwards and upwards
#7 Linda Buquet wrote on Thursday, May 22nd, 2008:
Hi Carsten,
I feel like you’ve possessed me. This post is getting so longs it looks like a “Carsten” post!
You said: “can only use affiliate links and banners provided by the merchant”
Well, you should, or commissions would not be tracked properly. I don’t think that this is a key criteria here. See my comment/question above.”
Sorry was in a rush and didn’t say that right. Also amended it after I talked to John Dozier Esq., Managing Partner of Dozier Internet Law. John is one of the leading Internet attorneys out there.
What I meant by that is should only use web based links, meaning links you get from the merchant and put on your site, as opposed to a flyer or newsletter with coupon codes, and links to the merchant’s site or any other form of advertising. John pointed out that every reference in the doc is about “links” they don’t mention banners. I had assumed and written banners. But they only say links - so I just removed any mentions of banners and that’s another point that needs to be clarified.
It’s not a matter of push-pull, there’s something else behind all this. That’s not it.
“If Advertisers add to the TOS the clause to make affiliates liable,”
This has nothing to do with making affiliates liable. The merchant is liable.
I don’t think it would be wise or even help if a few affiliates didn’t allow NY visitors on their site. Segmenting their email list to be sure NY residents don’t get any emails or at least emails that are selling the merchant’s products would probably be wise.
Thanks for weighing in! We are compiling a list of questions for the NY tax officials and I’ll include as many questions from you guys as I can.
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#9 Linda Buquet wrote on Thursday, May 22nd, 2008:
Hi Kevin, I think you posted while I was talking to Casten.
You wrote in comment #2:
“Hmmm. I was banking on George’s interpretation, and even paraphrased it in an email to a merchant that just dumped me”
I still tend to lean that way - but there is some double talk or conflicting wording that makes it difficult to just go with George’s interpretation, which initially I thought was correct. But then read this and see if your eye’s glaze over.
“In addition, an agreement to place an advertisement does not give rise to the presumption described above. For this purpose, placing an advertisement does not include the placement of a link on a Web site that, directly or indirectly, links to the Web site of a seller, where the consideration for placing the link on the Web site is based on the volume of completed sales generated by the link.”
Even though other places in the doc, I read it the way George did, it was pointed out to me that the way it is written COULD be saying you can place an advertising link on a site and rebut, BUT if you get paid based on sales then it it’s a different story.
BTW you can find that paragraph on page 2.
The paragraph above Example 1.
#10 Kevin wrote on Thursday, May 22nd, 2008:
Agreed. My chief concern is that many merchants, especially smaller ones, will find this too troublesome to even bother seeking legal counsel, and simply take the “quick fix” of dumping NY affiliates, even though it was ALSO stated today that dumping NY affiliates after April 15th wasn’t necessarily amnesty.
#11 Linda Buquet wrote on Thursday, May 22nd, 2008:
Yep I agree.
I have nothing to gain or loose here. I’m not a NY affiliate and not a merchant or even an affiliate manager. Just trying to be an industry advocate, because I see this problem mushrooming if the NY law isn’t challenged.
ALL that being said… everyone knows how committed I am to affiliates… but if I was a merchant with a limited or even say a good understanding of this problem, I don’t honestly know what I would do.
The part we are discussing, having to do with affiliates, nexus, rebuttals is only a small piece of the puzzle. If merchants have to pay the tax they are going to have to set up systems to collect it and I hear NY is crazy. Different taxes not only in different counties and cities, but I’ve heard certain types of products are taxed differently than others. So for merchants this is a big nightmare to implement.
I’m not an attorney (that should be obvious by now) but I would think merchants could challenge this based on the fact that there simply was not enough clear info and they were not given adequate time to implement everything by June 1. Merchants can’t even get the data to know if they hit the 10K threshold and need to pay, much less do they have time to deal with all the other ramifications and set up NY tax collection systems. Some merchants are now just getting wind of this and have no clue what to do. Just crazy!
#12 Carsten Cumbrowski wrote on Thursday, May 22nd, 2008:
“I feel like you’ve possessed me. This post is getting so longs it looks like a “Carsten” post!”
Hehe.. that happens if you go into details with things that are not set in stone :). Yep, your post is pretty long now. My comments look short, so yeah, definitely long.
Since the whole things is still not clear, am I just throwing in some general ideas for how to work around certain things or how to fight this thing. The folks who came up with this thing obviously didn’t look at the real world to worry about the question how and if steps can be implemented in order for businesses to comply to the law, without breaking any other law.
I am also thinking out loud for myself, which might also triggers an idea or thought for somebody else. I try to provide a different perspective on the same issues. Brainstorming is the word I was looking for.
Its an effective method to make progress with finding solutions and workarounds if you don’t have time to plan and research something in great detail.
“you can place an advertising link on a site and rebut, BUT if you get paid based on sales then it it’s a different story”
50% of display advertising is CPA based nowadays and that share increases every year. Google’s Exec Marissa Mayer calls CPA the holly grail where everything is heading to. Online and Offline. Now you can subs CPA with Pay per Performance , because that is what those non-affiliate marketing folks mean by CPA.
The privacy issue is one of the biggest strong points against this, if it really spells out $10,000 in sales at a merchant in NY per affiliate based in NY to customers who live in NY per Calendar year. No single entity can figure out this number without raising serious concerns about violation of consumer privacy. Folks would not be happy about that, regardless if it is legal or not to move personal identifiable information between 3 different parties in order to figure out a local state tax that no Joe schmo understands in the first place.
#13 Linda Buquet wrote on Thursday, May 22nd, 2008:
Carsten, you raise some good points. There are just so many gray areas and questions.
#14 seo pixy wrote on Thursday, May 22nd, 2008:
Thanks for sharing this important information. If it wasn’t for you, I wouldn’t know that:)
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#17 Linda Buquet wrote on Thursday, May 22nd, 2008:
Performics has an update on the NY tax issue and a way for merchants to pull reports on sales volume from NY affiliates.
NY State Sales Tax Update
Unfortunately I don’t believe this report will give merchants all the info they need, because the law was clarified.
It’s not total sales from NY affiliates as we originally thought. It’s sales from NY affiliates ONLY TO NY residents. Most affiliate programs don’t pull any personal customer information, like ’ship to’ state, from the merchant’s cart.
Here is the official quote from the May TSB. http://www.tax.state.ny.us/pdf/memos/sales/m08_3s.pdf
“The cumulative gross receipts from sales by the seller to customers in New York State as a result of referrals to the seller by all of the seller’s resident representatives under the type of contract or agreement described above total more than $10,000 during the preceding four quarterly sales tax periods.”
So I think this could require a change in the merchant’s privacy policy to collect and pass data about the purchasers ship to state to a 3rd party, plus a change in the network pixel to pull that data into the network reports.